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    • CommentAuthorelfman2
    • CommentTimeJan 4th 2010
     
    After a new business earns a profit, can the owner get her contributed equity out in a non-taxable way by crediting the account from which it was originally debited? For instance:

    Owner buys supplies with her own money:
    - Debt owner equity $5K, Credit bank $5k
    - Debt bank $5k and Credit supplies $5k

    A profit is realized, and she writes herself a check:
    - Debt bank $5k and credit owner equity $K

    Thanks, I'm not a bookkeeper but have worked around finance. I'm helping the owner of a new preschool with her bookkeeping in quickbooks online.
    Bill
    • CommentAuthormgogoing
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2010
     
    Did the owner lend the business the money? If so, she can realize the $5k as a repayment of the loan, assuming the organization is paying her a reasonable interest rate. (She will pay taxes on the interest income.)

    This is an overly simplistic statement, but generally speaking, the ins and outs of cash between her and her company do not affect the tax liability of the business. If the company made a profit, it will need to be reported somewhere (depending on the legal structure of the company - her tax returns or the business's).
    • CommentAuthorelfman2
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2010
     
    Thank you mgogoing. That sounds reasonable.

    I don't know why interest is needed. It's not as if there's something deceitful going on that has to be masked by an intent to earn interest. The owner of the daycare needed money to start up and she loaned it to her business so that it would be successful.

    I'm using quickbooks on-line for the first time, and just finding an account to reclassify everything as a loan will be challenging enough without have to add interest accounting and whatever end of year reporting for her that might entail. I'd like to avoid that unless it's mandatory.

    Thanks again!
    Bill
    • CommentAuthorArcSine
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2010
     
    Bill, on a side note, you've got your debits and credits reversed....the result of the owner purchasing supplies for the company would be a Debit to Supplies, and a Credit to Equity.

    But more to your question, just skip Equity altogether and use a simple short-term payable account. When the owner pays a small biz expense for the company from her own funds, just Debit the expense, and Credit "Short-Term Payable: Owner" (or something similarly titled). When the company reimburses the owner, you'd Credit Cash and Debit the Payable.

    As to the question of interest on a shareholder loan to a company, under certain circumstances interest must indeed be charged when the loan is between a shareholder and a corporation, and the amount exceeds a de minimis threshold. Doesn't sound like your scenario rises to this level, but consult Code Section 7872 (or your tax advisor) just to be sure.
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    • CommentAuthorelfman2
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2010
     
    Thank you ArcSine (and for correcting my debit/credit mix-up)!

    Bill
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    Well quick book is a very good sofwtare and like your way of helping others!

    Keep doing good work!



 

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